Protection Spells to Hold Energetic Boundaries And Call Your Power Back With Emotional Support Witch, Madame Creatrix

I invited a real witch on the Hexotica podcast to share her spiritual story and protection spells with you.✨

With the world currently on the verge of WW3, I know I've certainly needed to protect and ground my energy after all the doomscrolling and bad news!

And I could not have chosen a better guest! Not only did this lovely guest generously share protection spells and grounding advice with me, but she also shared the most fascinating spiritual becoming story. 🤯

Madame Creatrix was an 18-year-old high-school theatre student when her grandmother -- who had been deceased for 10 years -- came to warn her of a horrific event that then occurred days later.

That spiritual visitation and the Dark Night of the Soul that she entered soon after changed her life forever.

From her early years of grief and confusion, she discovered her spiritual gift and life's mission.

Eventually, she created the thriving business and spiritual persona she has today as Madame Creatrix, Emotional Support Witch.🪄🔮

So in the following full transcript of our interview, you'll learn:

• How to create energetic boundaries and ground yourself when doomscrolling or being affected by the recent horrific news headlines, such as the Epstein Files release
• Protection Spells to make yourself invisible in protests or when traveling away from home
• The specific herbs, crystals, and scripts you can use to set a protection spell intention, including a script that you can set to memory today to call your energy BACK! 💫

If the news or current political events in the world are draining your energy, this episode is exactly what you need! It's the kind of story that will help you remember that there is more to life than what most of us can sense. That there is a loving afterlife that's looking out for you. Spirits that want to keep you safe.

And who are working through gifted witches like Madame Creatrix to teach you how to protect yourself and ground your energy through these troubled times. 🖤

You can read the full transcript below, OR if you prefer listening, click below for the podcast version. 🪄 🎧💫

Prefer to watch instead of read? Watch the YouTube version here to hear and see Madame Creatrix herself.🪄 📺💫

Interview With Madame Creatrix on Hexotica’s Podcast✨

Full transcript, edited for readability.

Introduction: Madame Creatrix, Emotional Support Witch 💫

Christine Rice: Today, in Hexotica's world, please welcome Madame Creatrix.Your emotional support witch, ceremonial artisan, and spiritual coach. Her business weaves together handcrafted ritual tools, intuitive services, and community-centered magic.

Under Madame Creatrix's ceremonial sundries, she creates small batch incense blends, spell kits, grimmoire zines, devotional tools, and other ritual goods designed to support witches, mystics, and magical practitioners in deepening their practice with intention and integrity. Everything she sells, creates, or facilitates is rooted in connection, community, and conscious magic.

Her goal isn't to just hand people tools. It's to hand people the keys back to themselves. And you can find her beautiful website at madamcreatrix.com.

Welcome, Madame Creatrix! How are you today?

Madame Creatrix: I'm good! That's the first time I've heard someone read it back to me that wasn't inside my head. And it's very wordy! *laughs*

Christine Rice: It's a great intro! No, it really covers what you do very well. It's very intriguing that you call yourself an 'emotional support witch'.

So tell us about that...

What is an 'Emotional Support Witch'?

Madame Creatrix: Well, basically, the way that I describe it to people is you come to me. And yes, I use divination tools. I tap in intuitively, and I use all the woo-woo stuff, but honestly, it's just a chat.

Like, I sit with you.

Sometimes there's coffee, sometimes there's tea. But we're basically just talking about you. We're talking about what you've got going on...

Where do you want to be in the future?

How can we get you there?

Like, how can you take actionable steps to get to where you're at?

''I like calling myself an emotional support witch because it sounds a little less daunting than like your basic reader, like your tarot reader, or something like that.''

It kind of puts it in the title of what I do.

So, I've had a client recently tell me, "Oh, it's like having a cosmic chat with the universe through somebody when they sit with you!"

And I'm like, "I never thought of it that way!''

Christine Rice: That is an amazing description! ''A cosmic chat with the universe.'' That sounds great. I like the idea of calling yourself an emotional support witch too, because it is different. You're not just calling yourself a psychic. I see.

I saw from your website that you were talking about an incident in your high school where you said you went through the dark night of the soul and that you had a spiritual awakening.

And so all of this woo-woo stuff, your ability to help people, it didn't just come out of the blue. You didn't just pull it off a shelf.

You had a very intense and spiritual experience where you said, 'the world opened up' for you. And you became more in tune with spirits. I would love to know all about that!

Tell us, first of all, what a Dark Night of the soul is. And, what does that mean to you?

And then, what happened to you?

How a Spiritual Visitation in High School Led to a Dark Night of the Soul & Launched Her Spiritual Journey

Madame Creatrix: So, a Dark Night of the Soul...there's a lot of different interpretations and a lot of different ways of going about it.

The best way I describe it to people is it's that moment where you're kind of in the void.

You know, you don't really know where you're going. You're just kind of in this autopilot. You think you have your ideas set in place and how you want to proceed with whatever it is you're you're heading towards, right?

But it just feels like you're doing the motions just to do it. Or sometimes it can be extreme depression.

It can be all different things. It it looks different for everybody. And when we call it Dark Night of the Soul, I wish it was just like a haha 24 hours and then everything's fine.

Like no, it takes place over a period of time.

So, I was in high school. I was on this trajectory. I thought I knew exactly where my future was headed. I had the plans laid out.

And then as it was getting close to graduation...

''About 3 months shy of graduation, I lost someone very close and dear to me by suicide.''

Christine Rice: I'm so sorry.

Madame Creatrix: thank you.

It was something that like...you know when you experience something like you have relatives who pass of natural causes or old age... Or people die in car accidents, you know. It's a moment you lose somebody when you have to go through the loss and the grief in the morning... And there's nothing you could have done to like prevent it, right?

When someone chooses it that's a whole other ballgame of like having to process and understand all of that.

And I was 18 at the time, not even 18 at the time.

So add all of that on top of all the hormones, on top of all the stress of being like, "Oh my gosh, like this is something completely different."

Through the processing of everything, it was actually a couple days right before that happened...

I was a theater kid to nobody's shock and surprise.

And we were finishing up doing our spring musical.

On the last day of our closing, my great-grandmother actually showed up to me.

And it was weird because I was just like, well, maybe it's a trick of the light?

Maybe it's, you know, maybe I'm just crazy and I'm under so much stress because it's closing, right?

Note my grandmother had been passed had been deceased for about 10 years now at that point.

So, a little shock, right?

I went through all the the investigative things like, okay, well, maybe it was the light?

So, after everyone left and as we closed everything down, I went back out on the stage. I thought, okay, well, maybe it was here or maybe it was because of this?

I tried everything to try and like debunk that it could have been her.

And as I was standing on that stage kind of processing everything, she had said something to me. She had said, "I'm proud of you. You're doing great. It's going to be hard though, but you're going to get through this.''

What are you talking about??! Like I thought I was breaking.

Like I thought I had a mental break. I thought that was it.

Like this is - this is what they talk about. The men in white coats are going to come and grab me, right? *laughs*

And I just remember feeling overwhelmed like all this emotion started bubbling up inside of me. And I felt this this this need like I was going to cry. Like I just needed to sit down and sobb and I had no idea why.

So I kind of kept it to myself. I didn't tell anybody about it. Went home, continued the rest of the week.

The Realization That Her Deceased Grandmother Had Come To Comfort Her Before Her Friend Passed

That Thursday was when it happened.

It was when I got the news that my friend had died.

And I didn't put two and two together at the time.

It took a little bit for me to process everything, but I was like, "Okay, maybe maybe the two are, you know, related."

But, about a week and a half after they passed, I started getting dreams where they would show up to me.

And at first I was like, "Okay, it's just grieving." Like, just grieving. ''This is normal grief stuff. Like you see them, it's this thing.''

So, I'm going through the motions. I'm going through the process, right?

But but then they would show up to me in my dreams, they would tell me things. Tell me bits about themselves that I didn't know. Didn't know when they were alive.

I found out some of the stuff afterwards. And it was like, I didn't know what to do.

''And it was at that point where I'm like, this isn't normal. ''

Like this isn't normal.

And through his passing I ended up getting very close to his family. I got close to his siblings and his parents and it was just very...

They welcomed me and it was beautiful.
 
And I opened up to them and was like, "Hey, I know this is a bad timing. I know this is a weird thing, but I just want to ask you something like..."Did did this happen?"

I remember talking to his sister and her being like, "Well, yeah, that that happened like years ago before he was even in high school."

And I'm like, "Oh, that would have definitely been before I had met him."

Okay. And more stories like that had come through.

How a Witch Helped Her Realize She Was Spritually Gifted

So at that point I was like, I don't know what to do. Like I don't know what to do with this information!

But there was one source I had at the time and it was a friend whose mother was very very like into witchy shit.

Oh, sorry. Excuse me.

Christine Rice: that's fine!

Madame Creatrix: Really into witchy stuff.

Christine Rice: You can you can cuss!

Madame Creatrix: Oh, perfect.

All right. She was really into witchy shit, right?

So I remember confiding in the friend at the time and was like, "Hey, I've been experiencing some of this stuff. Do you know it? Would maybe your mom know about this stuff?

''And it was through them that my friend's mom told me, ''What you're experiencing is is clairvoyance.''

Like you're you're experiencing mediumship and things like this.

So, it's not crazy. It's not normal, but, you know, it's a thing.

That was kind of like my first, oh crap, this isn't just normal!

''And as the years went on, my friend who died was how I learned certain things.''

I learned how to shield myself. How to ground myself. He would teach me how to regulate my energy. How to feel when something's off. Or, when I feel something not kind or something not positive coming around like how to protect myself.

And how to block it out.

And he honestly was my very first teacher in all of this.

So, that was my very first awakening.

The Kickoff Of Her Spritual Evolution And Understanding What Clairvoyance Really Means

Now, I'm going to be 35. I've had two other crazy awakenings since then. But like that was the the very big like roundhouse kick the door open. Here we go!

Christine Rice: Wow, that's incredible.You were 18 when that all happened?

Madame Creatrix: yeah!

Christine Rice: You were old enough to to know that when you saw your grandmother to question it. Like you were already knowing, you were understanding that this was not normal.

It's a different experience from what happened with my previous guest who was an angel guide. She had just been born with it from a very young age. She thought it was normal.

So when you were 18 to have that experience, you knew, okay, this is not normal. What's happening??? But that's incredible. Wow.

Madame Creatrix: I had, but...

''I have always had an interest in like the weird, the strange, the unusual like since my earliest memories''

Yeah. And there were certain things that I just thought were normal that I thought were quirks. Like, I thought everybody dreamed about different past lives that they had or I thought everybody had these weird dreams where it felt like they were memories but in a different body.

Like I knew later down the road I was just like, "Oh wait,''

''I was exhibiting a lot of this stuff way before I knew cognitively like what it was."

So it had always been there. It's just this was that moment that was like, "Okay, we thought maybe you'd catch out a little bit quicker, but you didn't. So, here we go!"

Christine Rice: That is wow that's an incredible story!

Madame Creatrix: yeah.

Christine Rice:

''When your deceased grandmother visited you, did you feel any fear or was it just like awe and just feeling guidance?''

Madame Creatrix: I think the fear was I thought my psyche was breaking. Um, I wasn't scared of the moment. Like, in the moment, I was more curious than anything, you know.

Because the thing is, I've read stories.

We've all we all have our our our emotional support shows, you know? I grew up watching Charmed.

Like, I read witchy books where I could get it, you know? That that was my my bread and butter.

They were where I went for everything.

''It didn't feel anything like what I read.''

It didn't. There weren't any flashing lights. No weird shimmeringness with it, you know? She was in the audience as if she was someone that paid a ticket to be there.

Like, so it was like, this this seems normal, but there's just something not, you know?

But my body knew. Wait, hold on.

So there there's a lot of things in there in these books. Again, I've been reading about this stuff. I had been learning because I'm like, I think this is fascinating. I think this is all great.

But when I was experiencing it for myself, I was just like, no, this isn't it. No. Like, that's not what they said in the story. That's not what they said in this book. So...

Christine Rice: Yeah. Your rational mind wanted to bypass your intuition and understanding?

Madame Creatrix: Exactly. Exactly. So when it was happening, one of the biggest lessons that I had to learn and what I bring to my clients is it's going to look divinely however it needs to.

''And odds are you're already experiencing some of this stuff.''

But because it doesn't look a certain way or it wasn't packaged a certain way when it happens to us, we instantly are like, "No, not not me. Not not for me."

Christine Rice: wow. Thank you for sharing that story. That's incredible!

''So your friend who unfortunately passed, who decided to pass, he has been your guide. And is he still with you today?''

Madame Creatrix: Yeah, he shows up when something big is about to happen. Like when there's a big shift that comes around.
 
But for the most part, it's with other people's guides. Not everyone's guides stay with them throughout the duration.

Like yes, we have our set that we work with and they're there with us every lifetime.

But some of them are a little bit more at the forefront. Some of them take a step back.

And at that time when he showed up, I think it was a combination of well, I was open to it. I already had that kind of ability.

I just didn't realize it was there. And also it it was -- I knew him.

So, because it was somebody that I knew, it allowed myself to kind of open up a little bit more, you know? Versus it being somebody that I don't know showing up.

Like, I I would have instantly been like, "Nope, we're we're we're closing that down! We're not doing this!" *laughs*

But because it was first my great-grandmother and then it was them... like it needed to be some sort of familiar thing for me to be able to be like, "Okay, I can trust this."

Even still, I questioned it, but because I knew them, I was able to trust.

And all of it was with discernment, too, you know?

Because the first thing you think about is all the taboos and all the fear-based blanket statements that come around when people say, "Oh, I'm seeing dead people."

So it's it's about that discernment and learning, too. Which was something I had to learn and grow and trial and error and experience along the way.

Christine Rice: That's beautiful. And I love how you have evolved that now to helping other people get in touch with their intuition and to get in touch with their their feelings in that way.

''Can you explain how your gifts evolved into your current mission to help other people?''

Madame Creatrix: : Absolutely.

So I was always looking for a mentor or somebody out there that was able to help me. You know, someone that was able to see what I had and was able to help either hone it or help be able to establish a relationship with it.
 
And I've bobbed and weaved through different mentors. A lot of toxic mentors, too.

I learned what it was that I didn't want to be.

For example, I learned what I didn't want to provide people if I ever wanted to step into this role.

Now, mind you, I had my spiritual awakening when I was 18.

That didn't mean I was like, ''great! I'm going to be a professional witch! This is what I'm going to do!''

I got my big fancy degree in illustration, graphic design, and social media marketing.

Christine Rice: Is that why your website's so beautiful?😍

Madame Creatrix: probably. Yeah!

Christine Rice: For my listeners, you have to go and visit her website, Madame Creatrix. It's just gorgeous. The aesthetics, the everything. I love it!

Madame Creatrix: Well, thank you. It's like, I'm a childless cat lady, but my branding and my website and my business are my babies. So, thank you.

Christine Rice: Same same here, childfree dog lady!

Madame Creatrix: But I had to, you know? These were things that opened the door, right?

But I was very like, I can't, this isn't like - it's not like in Harry Potter where I can make this my whole career and just be like a witch and things like that.

I always was like, that was for them and not for me.

''Because I didn't think I was able to do it. Or, I didn't think that it was something that was a a big adult was supposed to do.''

So, I fought it tooth and nail.

I had my awakening and the whole way I was just like, "Nope, I'm going to be an artist or I'm going to be a writer."

Um, I even studied psychology and was like, "I'm going to do this and making shifts and changes along the way."

It wasn't until I think it what was it? It was 2022.

So I came out of the broom closet as Madam Creatrix in 2020.

That was the moment that I was like, ''I am okay. I am I'm seeing that this is a very clear pattern through everything.''

How Her Spiritual Gifts Affected Everything She Did, Including Her Illustration Work🪄

Madam Creatrix: The saying is there's only two things in life guaranteed: death and taxes. Um, no. The the third thing is wherever I am working, it's going to be haunted as shit.

Or there's going to be somebody who is haunted as shit and needs help like every time.

Christine Rice: You have spirits coming to you asking for help?

Madam Creatrix: So, it was and it wasn't. I would just go somewhere and there'd be something that was there. And I was just like,''what is this shit? Is it me? Do I have it stamped on my forehead? Like what??!''

Christine Rice: A forehead portal?

Madam Creatrix: Yeah. Like medium psychic.

Christine Rice: ''Ask for help here'', huh?

Madam Creatrix: Yeah! So, I went into illustration.

''I went the the marketing route cuz that's an adult responsibility. That is an adult job.''

Like it looks good on resumes. Talking to the dead doesn't look good on a resume. I was like, "Okay, this works."

So the whole way I went...

''But my stuff seeped there. There was ways that it found its way.''

So when I was studying illustration alone, I was like, "Okay, well, I'm going to well, it was creative writing and illustration together."

So I was just like, "Okay, I'm going to write stories and I'm going to illustrate them."

And I was just like, "Oh, I have this story and I have these very clear images of what the character is going to look like and I have this full story of what happens to somebody like really short stories, right?"

And I'd get the whole story, it'd be flushed out and it wasn't until I got a little older and understood what I do.

I'm like, "Oh, that's why."

''It's because it's not just a story. It's a past life that I lived and that's why I know the character so well. Because the character is me.''

Christine Rice: What? What? Wow!

Madame Creatrix: When I would draw people...

The Drawing Mistaken For a Photograph

Like for an illustrator - for people who do art and anyone listening - I was always told like you you learn still life and then you progress to doing humans.

Because humans are hard because it's all the shading. And you know it's all about trying to bring that emotion and that identity to that portrait, right? Whoever your subject is.

It was opposite for me. I suck at drawing inanimate objects. Nope, not for me. But I could draw people like you wouldn't believe.

Through my studying, I did a self-portrait of myself. We had to. Not that I like drawing pictures of my face all the time, but it was an assignment we had to do.

And I finished it and my teacher was like, "Oh my gosh, like this is phenomenal. You should apply.You should put it in a show. You should have it be in the jured show."

And I was just like, "Eh, okay, whatever." You know? so I applied and I got a phone call from somebody and they're like, "Hey, we've got your piece here, the photography piece that you did. But it doesn't have a name on it. What do you want to call it?"

I'm like, "Photography? I I didn't have a photography piece. I did an illustration piece and they're like, "No, this is a photo."

I'm like, "No, it's not, you're not looking at my bit." Like my mine has literally a big old picture of my face on it. And then they looked and they double checked and they're like, "Yeah, this is a picture of a face."

Like if it says 'Lauren' on it, it's me. And they're like, "Oh my gosh, yeah. Oh, we're sorry. We put it in the photography section."

My grandmother still has it hanging up.

''I can capture people. And I can capture pictures. Emotions. And it's not that like it's the physical part of them. But it's how it seeps out through their aura.''

How it seeps out through the eyes.

So I'm like okay this this is something... this is something... I draw good! So I might as well go this route you know?

And that's what I do with my clients. I go, is it something that really sparked you joy, your joy, or are you doing it because you feel like you have to do it?

You feel like, oh, well, I'm good at it, so I might as well pursue this.

Like, so it's the backtracking, which I had to do it myself. And now I do it with everybody else. So, I learned everything along the way. That's why my website looks great. That's why my branding looks hot as shit.

But this is this is my passion.

Christine Rice: The an evolution of learning to to trust yourself because it does take a lot of time to trust yourself. And to believe that those things that light us up - that we're passionate - about are worth pursuing.

I'm a big believer that we have inspiration for a reason. It's our divine guidance. And if you feel inspired by something, that is a that is a spiritual calling.

Madame Creatrix: Absolutely.

Christine Rice: So for me, I feel spiritually compelled to help other people find their, abilities as well and to trust in themselves and to find their self-reliance in in the world. To have more freedom. I love that. Thank you for for sharing that.

There were a couple things that you said that I have some questions around. You mentioned feeling a shift when your friend comes in, feeling a shift. Are you feeling a shift in the world right now?

Madame Creatrix: Yes.

Christine Rice:

''With everything that's going on in the in the world and especially in the states, what does that mean spiritually?''

And and how how are you helping people with with the shift that's happening?

Madame Creatrix:: Regulating!

Christine Rice: Regulating, yaaasss!

Madame Creatrix: Regulating and grounding.

I tell everybody stay informed but don't be completely plugged in.

Honestly, it's the news sources that we're doing today, but also when people walk into doing their spiritual practices, it's a lot of discernment too. Like the job never ends. Using your discernment never stops.

''Stay informed but don't be constantly doom scrolling.''

The biggest thing that you can do right now is have your time where you look at the information. Your trusted source of media that you're going towards. That's another thing that we have to do. You know what what media sources are reliable, or if it's neutral. Know that it doesn't have propaganda behind it.

It's just learning how to use it a little bit better. And knowing when it's telling you and how to recognize and identify that.

Christine Rice: Absolutely. Yeah. What do you do every day?

''What's your personal ritual for protecting your energy?''

Christine Rice: Like can you share one of your protection spells or rituals that you do to to help yourself? Because in the interview I did with Sam Angel Guide, she said that she used the shower.

She would do a kind of affirmation or protection chant around herself. Because otherwise she was just bombarded by spirits all day long and negative energy sometimes, too.

Protection Spells: Showers With Intention For Energetic Cleansing & Grounding 🪄

Madame Creatrix: So shower, absolutely, yes. It's all about the intention and the energy you put behind it.

So, I use a dragon's blood soap. And then sometimes I'll use a frankincense and myrrh soap.

''But before I just go and apply it to my body, I activate the spiritual properties of that soap and the active ingredients that are in there. And I tell them what it is that I want them to do. ''

For example, with the frankincense and myrrh, I'm telling them I want them to completely cleanse me. I want them to ground me, keep me in my body. But also protect me as things go, release anything that isn't mine.

Protection Spells: Florida Water for Travel on The Go & Crowded Places 🪄

And moving forward, I also have travel Florida water. A small business owner near me creates it herself. She puts in like a little travel bottle. So, I'll use that.

I'll I'll spritz it on my hands. On the back of my neck. And my points, so like on my wrists. I'll use that especially if I'm going and doing readings at an event, back to back readings. I use it a LOT.

Christine Rice: That's a lot of people, a lot of energy, isn't it? It's very draining?

Madame Creatrix: Yeah. So, having having the travels spray, it helps.

But even so, they they you can buy like a small bottle of it fairly reasonably priced oils.

Protection Spells: Essential Oils 🪄

Another thing is I'll use oils. Like I am a smelly witch and like to smell the best way! I love things that smell good because it helps really like get me in the the moment with it.

Christine Rice: Me too!

Madame Creatrix: So I will use an oil that has again frankincense and myrrh in it. I actually keep that in my travel purse too. So it's a bottle that has frankincense and myrrh. So, I'll apply it before I go out.

But sometimes when you're out and you're just kind of feeling the ick, you know, it's good to have it on you cuz then you can apply it wherever you're at.

And you don't have to like make a whole to-do about it. You just reach into your purse like you're putting on lotion and do your thing. Carrying travel things like I have a travel Greek eye that I have I have everywhere. Um, so it it I'm I'm all about being able to like pick it up and go somewhere. So oils are easy to do.

Having a to- go spray of you can use Florida water. You don't have to use Florida water. You can use like an essential oil blend that works for you. Excuse me.

So finding what works. some people are very sensitive to smells. So using an oil or using Florida water, it it can really trigger the senses and create that overwhelming.

Protection Spells: Carry Crystals or Wear Them In Jewelry🪄

So. with crystals having selonite is really good.

Black tormolene is a good one. And Amethyst.

You can keep it on your body. Wear it in a jewelry. You can put it in your pocket. Or, if you're a female who wears bras like you can stick it in your bra if you need to. 'Cuz god forbid we have POCKETS that carried all of our nefarious things. *laughs*

So, like you can be you can be versatile with it.

Protection Spells: Draw Protective Sigils On Your Skin 🪄

Another thing too is sigils. You take a sigil and one that's protective.

Apply it with lotion. You know, while you're putting your lotion on, you apply your sigil and then you rub it into your skin.

For example, I've had people I've created sigils for for protection for different needs. And you can write it on your skin with marker or like with a pen. And that way you can hide it. You can put it underneath your clothing. It doesn't have to be something that draws attention.

Because in a lot of situations too, especially for those who are protesting and doing stuff like that, you don't want to draw that attention.

So, what they can have on their body that's hidden is going to be the best for them. We actually create sachets, little protection spell pouches. We have one that is an invisibility cloak for people.
 
Christine Rice: Mhm. Oh, that's useful.

Protection Spells: Veiling Your Head or Weaving Protection Spells Into Hair 🪄

Madame Creatrix: Yeah, veiling is another really good one, too. Wearing literally like a headscarf.

Or, I see for people with longer hair. I do not have long hair. But they will braid protections into their hair before they go out or before they do anything.

''It's it's all about finding your natural rhythm and what works for you. And kind of where your magic takes you.''

So, if you're still questioning what to do, you know, you can always hit up your your emotional support witch and we can talk about that! 😉

Christine Rice: I love that! Thank you. That was such a lovely list of of ideas and practical protection spells that people can use.

''Do you sell some of these these kind of sundries in your online shop?''

Madame Creatrix: Yes. So, I sell the sachets in my shop.

With Florida water, if you can buy it from an indigenous small business that would be preferred. But I do know that it is something that is more accessible. You can buy it at any metaphysical shop. I'm in the states so I believe they even started selling Florida water at Walmart, too.

So like some of the super centers will have it. I know for a fact that a bodega or a Hispanic store will have it stocked.

But honestly, if you can go to me or go to your local small witchy businesses, support them. Because they're going to have they'll hook you up and they might even know something that's even better that can help you. And very specific for what you're looking for.

''Because general protection is one thing, but if you're looking to be protected from something very specific, that's going to be what you're going to want to go with.''

Christine Rice: Fantastic. Thank you. That was just so helpful. I know people just need so much more protection right now to make sure that they're not spending too much energy worrying about what's outside of their control. And letting that affect them and bring thhem down. You also said regulation...

''What kind of rituals do you have around regulation and that kind of emotional calming?''

Madame Creatrix: So, what I do is I make sure that I'm hitting all of my points. My physical, my mental, my emotional, and my spiritual health right now.

I focus a lot on the the mental, the emotional, and the physical.

With the spiritual, once you kind of have your stuff in place, like that's one thing. I think we get so focused on I want to be sure that I'm spiritually here. I'm spiritually this. But honestly, your body is your first line of defense to tell you what's going on.

Especially if your body's kind of out of whack and doesn't know what it's going to do.

''So, first and foremost, I recommend doing a body scan when you wake up in the morning. ''

A body scan is just kind of sitting still. Getting kind of cozy.

Try and have your back straight, your spine in alignment, and just do some deep breathing.

Do a scan as if you were going to the doctor and they were taking a scan from the top of your head all the way down.

Focus on all around your head, the front, your back, your shoulders, all the way down till you get your tippy toes.

Okay...

''What are you feeling physically?''

Like, do you feel any pain somewhere? Do you feel any tension? Do you feel any like tingly sensations?

For example, I have really bad sciatica. So, I have to pay attention. Okay, where am I feeling these pain points in my body right now?

Make note of that. Doing stretches, making sure that you're in your body.

Even if it's just moving each part, you can move your t like your fingertips, stretching out, making sure that everything's there.

''Body tapping [EFT/Emotional Freedom Technique] is really good, too.''

Tapping each of those points because you're feeling it.

It is a sensation.

Christine Rice: that's EFT tapping?

Madame Creatrix: Yeah, it's emotional freedom technique.

Christine Rice: If you don't know about that listening to for my audience, definitely look into EFT tapping.

EFT Tapping helped me get through one of the most traumatic periods of my life. In 2023, eight houses on my house got decimated by a big storm. I was homeless for five weeks.

A really lovely lady sent me a personalized EFT guide. I used it every day and it was incredible. It's incredibly calming.

Madame Creatrix: Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And these are tools.

Like these are tools that it's once you know how to use them, then it's just...

I tell everybody the hardest part is just remembering that ''I can do this''.

When it comes to the the breathing and and bringing yourself into your body and grounding, the hardest part is just remembering to do it.

Christine Rice: Exactly. Being proactive with your protection.

So, let's go a little bit dark here...

''What can happen to people if they don't protect themselves?''

Madame Creatrix: oh, a LOT!

It can be different for everybody.

The mental clarity is just kind of diminished.

The amount of times that I'll sit down with somebody, trying to understand what's going on with their energy...

I can't because their their thoughts are constantly racing. This is not to be mixed up with like having ADHD or something like that. But the constant racing thoughts. Worrying about what's happening in the future.

Or thinking about what did I do in the past or I could have said something differently. Bringing yourself to the present, okay?

Because you have no control over the past. You have no control over the future.

So bring yourself to present, okay? A lot of the times the anxiety can be spiked there.

There's times where if I'll ask my clients, ''Are you're feeling anxious? You've got the racing thoughts. When's the last time that you you did some breathing? Or, when's the last time that you brought yourself to your present? When's the last time you've done this?''

Christine Rice: When have you had deep relaxation? Because we our bodies crave that. They crave that deep relaxation.

Being on our phones scrolling is not relaxation. Those apps are designed to hijack our brains to keep us like in a state of alertness.

So, we can't relax with a with an app.

I'm really big about that. You've got to be able to put your phone away for hours at a time. And deeply relax. Really, really cut off.

Because otherwise those things can come in.

Madame Creatrix: right.


Christine Rice: Spiritually, I'm curious to know...

''With all of the darkness that's out at the moment, so much negativity, are there negative entities that can they can affect us?''

Like they can almost infect us if we are not protecting ourselves? Because that's kind of something in the back of my mind that I worry about.

For example, if I get too angry.

''If I get too much rage reading too much of the Epstein files or something like that.''

Like, is it going to start to spiritually have a of a cheesecloth effect allowing negative spirits?

Or you know...that's what I worry about sometimes!

Madame Creatrix: Well, when you think about it, like attracts like.

That's just law of attraction, right? Not the kitschy one, but that's just, you know, science. But frequency, yes.

''I'm always very careful and cautious talking about people having entities. Being open to entities, and things like this. Because yes, it is possible.''

Okay... But a lot of the times how possible and how often it actually happens is a lot smaller than us holding ourselves accountable to the things that we've got going on.

So it's about accountability, self-awareness, and also just taking note of the things that we're doing.

Now, I have had clients that have attachments.

And a lot of the times people who have attachments, it's not because of anything that they did. It's not because of anything that you know, oh well, you're a bad person. So you have an attachment. Like it's not like that.

Sometimes these attachments are because you they're karmic.

They're they're attached to us on a soul level, you know?

So we incarnate in this body, that attachment finds us because it found us lifetimes ago. You know, it's the cases for attachments and entities and things. They're so vast and there's so much.

But a lot of it too...it creates a lot of fear base around it. 

So the more you're like, "Oh, I'm scared I'm going to get an attachment. Oh, I'm scared that something's going to find me."

Like, like, it's kind of...

Christine Rice: I need to stop worrying! *laughs*

Madame Creatrix: It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way because you're like, "Oh, I always knew this was going to happen. I always knew.

Well, what were or what are you doing? What are you opening yourself up into? You know?

So it's about being mindful.

Protecting Your Energy When It Comes To Paying Attention to the News And Political Events🪄

Christine Rice: Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's just that thing like there's so much darkness out there.

I'm not really sure sometimes like how much I should pay attention to it all. I know need to stay aware of the headlines, but then I'm like, Oh my god, this is just like, you know... It pushes my boundaries!

Madame Creatrix:

''Stay informed but remain unplugged.''

So after you do something like this, here's one of the top things that I recommend...

Get in the habit of saying, ''I release what no longer serves me. I release what is not mine. I release what was never mine that I held on to for whatever reason.''

Maybe it was something I inherited. Maybe it was something I picked up along the way.

Christine Rice: Beautiful.

Madame Creatrix: Or maybe it was something that somebody sent me. I release it and I send it back to its point of origin.

Or, if you don't want to send it back to its point of origin, you can send it down into - what to call her? Mother nature. Gaia. What have you.

''Send it down into mother earth where it can be neutralized. ''

You can do it that way, too. Get in the habit of the releasing.

Then once you've released, call back all of your energy. Call back.

I call back my energy...

''All that is mine. I call my energy back to me across time and space. Past, present, future, anything that exists in the parallel, the multiverse. I call it back from anybody who's tried to take it. I call it back from anybody I maybe given it to, known or unknown. I call it back to me. Right here and right now.''

And calling back your energy too.

Not just all the versions of you that you used to be. ALL the versions of you that exist now, but also call your energy back from all the versions of of you you have yet to step into.

''Because that's what worrying does. Worrying is putting you at various points into the future.''

So it little by little, it's kind of like breadcrumbs. So you want to call all that back. Okay?

And you also want to say,

''I call all that energy back to me divinely mind and whole without anything foreign energy attached to it.''

You get into the habit of doing that more and more. You feel what isn't yours. And then you call your energy back. And then sit with it. What does it feel like to be just you? Just you with all of your energy? Some people don't know what that's like.

That's like some people don't know what it's like to relax.

So when I ask them, ''What do they want to do for you? What do you do to relax? What do you do for self-care? ''

''Well, I watch TV or I read a book.''

No, no! ''What do you DO?

''What do you do to BE with yourself?''

They don't know how to how to answer that.

So, it's about, okay. Date yourself!

Christine Rice: Yeah. Go within.

Madame Creatrix: Get to know yourself. Get to know what you want.

Like, cuz some people don't know that. And that's okay, but that's just what we've grown up into.

The Importance of Spending Quiet Time Alone, Getting to Know Yourself as Energetic Protection🪄

Christine Rice: Yeah. A lot of people go, go, go. So spending time being idle is somehow almost like a sin. Or like something you shouldn't do too often. We were told not to be too idle.

Madame Creatrix: That's the society today.

Christine Rice: But all the answers are when we are quiet. All the answers come in silence. They come in when when we're spending time alone and when we go within.

Madame Creatrix: We've grown accustomed to fearing that stillness.

''Sitting and feeling what that is...it's necessary.'

We equate with stillness with death. With stasis. And we attribute those to being bad things, but they're not.

Just like when you're doing a tarot reading and the death card pops out, you shit yourself. You're like, "Oh crap, here we go." But that's not what it means, you know?

It's so in the same regard.

Christine Rice: Thank-you so much for sharing this with us.

Now, to take it back to marketing...I would love to hear more about you as a business person.

Like, how do you help your clients? Who's your most ideal client?

''What was the first thing that you ever sold when you first started to pivot into who you are now?''

Madame Creatrix: The hardest thing was trying to figure out how do I sell something that isn't something you can hold in your hands, right?

So the very first thing that I ever sold service-wise was my readings.

And now I've done tarot in the past. But when I fully emerged as Madame Creatrix, I started being this version of me. Versus the past version. I actually don't use tarot cards or oracle cards.

''When I do my sessions, I tap into you.''

So, it's trying to identify and also explain to people what it is that I do. Why it's important, why it's necessary.

And that verbiage and how to explain it has been different. It's changed the whole time. But it it took a little bit for me to coin the term 'Emotional Support Witch'.

 Well, I'm your emotional support witch!

And people go, "Oh, I kind of understand it." It's basically what it is.

And it was like, "Okay, so I I can I can elaborate on this a little bit." Then it's like, "Okay, well, how would I want to present myself to people?"

So people know exactly who I am and what they're getting. What you see is what you get.

Like you see me online and -- okay, my wedding photos and my engagement photos are like (!) The most beautiful photos the the way I look.

Christine Rice: Gorgeous. And I love your headdress, too. The flower headdress. Absolutely gorgeous!

Madame Creatrix: Like oh you Thank you. I made it!

Madame Creatrix: So people are going to look at those and be like, ''Oh, that's who I'm gonna get in person?'' *laughs*

Oh, sometimes yes. But sometimes, you get this. You get fresh faced, you get quirky, you get raw and authentic.

''I always told myself that what people saw on their screen, I wanted to be sure that I was replicating that in person and vice versa.''

So, I made sure all of my branding colors reflected what my outfits look like. Reflected all of like my aesthetic outside of Madame Creatrix and inside the realm of Lauren.

That's what I tell people. Like, why are you trying to be something else? You know, you want it to be effortless. Working smarter, not harder, right? So, yeah, there's tweaking to it.

Christine Rice: It's gorgeous.

Madame Creatrix: But I settled on the the branding and how I wanted it to go. I wanted it to be where you walk in and you instantly get that cozy feel.

''I've always said if I could live somewhere where it was autumn 24-7.''

Christine Rice: Oh, yes. That's what I miss about that's what I miss about Georgia the most! Autumn was always my favorite. And even though I love living in Australia, we just don't have that many trees with that many colors. And it's just or not the same smell, you know? It's just it's not the same. It's so gorgeous there.

Madame Creatrix: It's it's my favorite. Even in summer. I'm like, is that color on the tree? And my husband will be like, ''no that's a dead leaf'' Like let me be hopeful. Yeah. *laughs*

Christine Rice:

''How are you able to work as an Emotional Support Witch full-time?''

Christine Rice: I'm assuming that your services working one-on-one with with your clients for the emotional support make up the majority of your income?

Madame Creatrix: Yes. Now, I do have the the supplementals... the physical products that we sell.

So, we sell spell kits. We we sell things that, you know, if anyone's mentioned it like, ''hey, I'm looking to do this or I'm looking for a ritual or a mindfulness thing around this'', I was like, I should probably make a product, you know.

Same thing with the things I was looking for myself that I could not find. So, I'm like, I guess that means I have to create it!

So, that's where a lot of my products are.

A majority is my my 1-1 readings, my coaching, and reiki.

The best outlets that I have are TikTok and Instagram.

And a majority of that is because I just I put myself out there.

How She Uses Social Media to Sell Her Spiritual Services🪄

Christine Rice: You're very good, very comfortable being on video. Which is just so important. I'm always trying to tell people, you don't need to show up looking like a an influencer. Like just be you. People actually will relate more with you if you are just you.

But being on video is almost like it's a non-negotiable these days.

Madame Creatrix: Yeah. And it's, you know, it's still nerve-wracking.

Like there are days where I'm like, I really need to put a video out there. I haven't in a while. And I'm like, well, here we go! I just set the camera up. And I'm like, I'm just going to TALK.

Honestly, I've learned that I could sit and I can make the most beautiful video. Like the directions good, I've got the color editing, the sound lines up perfectly.

''But if it's not me or it's not me doing something in the video, those videos will maybe get a couple hundred views, maybe break a thousand.''

That's just like likes and views. That's not engagement, you know? It's honestly the videos where I am like this. I just need to throw something out there and I look like ass and it doesn't matter. *laughs*

Those are the ones that everyone likes! Yeah, and they've got input and they've got feedback. Those are the ones that really started driving things.

Christine Rice: Exactly!

Madame Creatrix: So, I was just like, "Okay, now the other stuff is important still."

Like, I still have the the static photos and the carousel and that stuff, but the video content? *makes a face*

''And I TELL my clients too, yes, I am selling services. Yes, I'm selling products.''

But the goal isn't so every time somebody looks at me, they go, "Oh, what is she selling? Oh, what is she gonna try and pitch me.''

Christine Rice: Like you're not overly selling on your social media. And I love that you are just putting stuff out there even if you look like ass because honestly? I think that's the best way to do it!

I know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me, but I really do believe that when you are starting off and you're starting a business you should go for quantity not quality.

Because it's through quantity that you figure out what is quality. And you get used to being being on camera. Or you have more data to work with all that.

Madame Creatrix: Exactly. You know what works and what doesn't. You're not going to know what those numbers are if you don't have the content out there for that.

Christine Rice: Exactly.

''So do you get your clients through TikTok and Instagram?''

Madame Creatrix: Oh, yeah!

Christine Rice: Is that mostly your client channel?

Madame Creatrix: Honestly, yeah.

Christine Rice: Fantastic.

Madame Creatrix: So, with more of my older generation, believe it or not, I do have clients that I get from Facebook. So I do get stuff from Facebook.

Christine Rice: That's the Gen X here. *laughs with hand up* Gen X are on Facebook. That's why I still love Facebook. So, I'm in all the groups. The witchy groups and whatnot.

 Madame Creatrix: Well, and yeah.

So I do get clients off Facebook, especially with the longer form content.

So blog posts, you know, the longer form where I'm typing it. It's more so to get the longer messages out there. The longer things that I need to say out there. Those do really well on there.

But again, it's not word vomit. It's not AI bullshit that just kind of fills a page with with keywords. It's real live like things that are out there that I write about. Including my events and all that has to be posted on Facebook. In order for the, you know, the algorithm hippos and all that stuff.

So, I still utilize all the different ones I can't really get behind, too. And all the youths out there are like, "We're going to use Threads! We're going to use BlueSky!''

Christine Rice: Oh, Threads? No, no.

''Threads is THE witch coven right now. Like, Threads is where all the witches are.''

It's like my most spiritual space.

Madame Creatrix: Apparently.

Christine Rice: I love Threads. I can spend hours there. It's very progressive, left-leaning, and very political.

But I try not to, you know, get too much of that stuff. I'm there for the witches. I'm there for the astrology, the tarot. It's just an absolute like little sanctuary over there. It's sooo good.

Madame Creatrix: I think the last thing that I actually mindfully put on threads was let's see how long this takes.

Let's see how long my my attention span can remember that I have this. And I think it's been about a year and a half. The rest of it is just stuff that like followed through from Instagram because the caption was short enough.

Christine Rice: Okay. Yeah. Right.

So is there anything else that you do for traffic?

The Critical Piece to Her Success: Community And In-Person Events🪄

Madame Creatrix: So I've done a couple of paid ads for the actual events that I'm a part of and doing.

But the rest of it is all organic. All of it is organic.

Christine Rice: that's good. Yeah, you're doing a great job. I thought your social media content was fantastic. Social media manager approved!

Madame Creatrix: Thank you. Thank you.

And [our events] are in historic Woodstock, Illinois. If you've ever seen the movie Groundhog Day with Bill Murray. That's it.

But it's okay. We can rely on this rodent to divine the weather for us for the next six months. That's cool. *laughs*

So, it's a great town and that's where we're going to be for that. Because honestly,

''My business wouldn't be anywhere if it wasn't for the community that I've built along the way.''

And I think that's really important, too.

Christine Rice: [In person events] are more important than ever, yes. Because now, as we get more and more into AI. As the internet becomes more and more dead. And there's more bots. Most of the traffic is is bots! We're going to be gravitating more toward in-person events, I think.

And so, yeah, that's a fantastic way to bring community get together.

[To see upcoming events with Madame Creatrix in person, click here.]

Final Thoughts And Thanks To Madame Creatrix For Sharing Her Protection Spells on the Hexotica Podcast🪄

Christine Rice: Thank you so much for telling us all about your business! I cannot wait to share all these protection spell tips that you gave. Thank you so much for coming onto the podcast!

Madame Creatrix: Well, thank you for having me! And for allowing me this opportunity and holding space for this. This is amazing and important. And if you ever want me back on, we've got so much we can talk about!

Christine Rice: Oh my gosh, so much more!

Today's interview was mostly like protection spells, but it's an ongoing journey to continue to learn about how how we can connect with spirit. And how we can learn to trust ourselves and our inspiration. To grow our businesses as spiritual business coaches, mentors, and practitioners.

So thank you! You're a real marketian.

[End Podcast]

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